HU:  yc_local knowledge

File:  [D:\HANOI\HERMES\yc_local knowledge]

Edited by: Super

Date/Time: 2002/09/08 - 11:44:26

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Knowledge: East/West

P 1: field notes_10_13_06.txt - 1:9  (7:10)    

  

HRK - knowledge - practice - sci vs local:

P 1: field notes_10_13_06.txt - 1:10  (39:39)    

Simon wants to know if Vinh/Tien knows Asterix and Cesar

which they don't know.

P 1: field notes_10_13_06.txt - 1:11  (67:67)    

I small, build knowledge like starting a puzzle

P 7: korff_isp_frame.txt - 7:1  (4:6)    

Tentatively an agreement has been reached that the study

project should deal with questions of local knowledge, how

innovations are integrated into it, and how change as well

as innovation is perceived in the local perspective.

P11: field_notes_26_06.txt - 11:1  (79:79)    

  

His mother came from Ban Dan (Chieng Sang) , father died and mother married  the 2nd time

(man from Kha, died too).

Visits tombs of the relatives on the days of their death. Brings fruits, incents... same as Kinh.

[referring to Tien... you know...]

P11: field_notes_26_06.txt - 11:2  (119:120)    

Tien: Since 90s FPR (farmer Part. Res.), new; "If you give new tech. to farmers you must

respect indigenous knowledge (combine tech knowledge with IK). They must be interested.

Must discuss with farmers; always researchers in Hanoi, maybe tech. not appropriate for

uplands, different conditions. How to combine; you must learn from farmers. Coop: Top

down, at that time, so much profits, new techs easy to apply, alll farmers must apply. Every

coop must apply. Now farmers blame coop time. But they got so much, e.g. irrigation system;

then easy to install, now individual farmers decide about their land....

Knowledge: Ethnicity

P 2: field_notes 17_06.txt - 2:30  (97:98)    

house opposite the bridge (material and work) Thai know how

to build wood houses, Huyen:

P 2: field_notes 17_06.txt - 2:31  (98:100)    

Kinh more skillfull; know how to build brick and wood house

P 6: field_notes_21_06.txt - 6:20  (64:64)    

Codes:  [K'mu vs Kinh] [knowl_auto]

Kinh are smarter than K'mu; know how to do business

(mentioned second time later on)

P 6: field_notes_21_06.txt - 6:36  (35:36)    

No, Kinh men don't like K'mu women because they don't know

how to do business.

P 6: field_notes_21_06.txt - 6:37  (98:98)    

Thai and Kinh know where to sell stolen things.

P 6: field_notes_21_06.txt - 6:38  (102:103)    

For him it is easy to find job because he knows (school

mate) a truck driver (Kinh from Tanh Hoa province, Central

North) in maize trading business

P12: field_notes_27_06.txt - 12:3  (73:73)    

Difference between Thai And Kinh: basically education, knowledge, think differently. E.g. husband (works Linh Ting) and her (either side: do that - don't want). Lifestyles... Thai men are said to make women happy, after she married: not true. She married, now will stay together.

Knowledge: Do not know

P 5: field_notes_20_06.txt - 5:15  (50:51)    

 

Old village code: not important, new is important, but not known to him MVT's

question:

P 9: field_notes_24_6.txt - 9:21  (7:7)    

 

I do not know anything.Huyen tried to convince.

P11: field_notes_26_06.txt - 11:3  (136:136)    

  

Credit for trade? No female trader in the village, they do not know yet.

P12: field_notes_27_06.txt - 12:1  (30:30)    

 

Trade/Business: Why not Thai women? Do not know how to calculate, do not have capital. She initially had little money; but could buy on tick (advance from market in YC and from farmers)

Knowledge: Practical skills

P 9: field_notes_24_6.txt - 9:22  (94:95)    

 

Child birth:

No birth celebration. Birthday celebration; yes.

On 7th day grand parents come and tie black cloth around his two wrists. Wish that the kid

grows up as a normal child. Leave clothe or cut later.

Not many children dy. Last year a 2 year-old died. All of the body got swollen...

Usually children are given birth at home. No special Hebamme. Everybody knows how to

assist: Cut umbilical cord not with knife but with sharpened piece of bamboo. (Huyen:

Popular all over VN, better than knife)

P10: field_notes_25_06.txt - 10:4  (32:32)   

Weaving: Girls only; men cannot learn; Simon needs 13-14 ys to learn.

Sowing (good/invisible seam) is most difficult, not e.g. patterns of blankets

Use cotton from plants, make thread themselves

Men make plaiting (bags, tables) from bamboo.

What is more important: skillful hands or head/knowledge? Knowledge. Skillful ones need

much less time.

P10: field_notes_25_06.txt - 10:5  (48:51)    

  

Trader carreer: moved to YC -> now sells to Hanoi He knows the traders from

his former village Na Phieng; "good friends"; could

accumulate enough from small trade in village to set up

bigger business; coffee shop owner calls these his friends

when he wants to sell things... She: From Hanoi: Banana, used to sell to China, now they do not export anymore. Now they make a lot of wine from banana

Several types of banana; Chuoi Tieu esp. for Tet in Hanoi. Tien: Most important fruit at Tet is banana.

P10: field_notes_25_06.txt - 10:6  (59:59)    

Forest: difficult to find: Nowadays it is difficult to find wild fruits in the forest. E.g. Wild

longan, wild pomelo. But can find bamboo shoots.

Especially knowlegdeable: She; Men relatively quiet.

P12: field_notes_27_06.txt - 12:2  (67:68)    

 

Several peops know about herb medicine; amateurs; only know to cure one desease (broken bone, kidney, liver); Mr E is professional:

Knowledge: Next generation

P 9: field_notes_24_6.txt - 9:23  (103:105)    

  

1st son should become nurse and not help on the field;

still get knowledgable concerning agriculture, should be

socially active, active boy, know how to talk, invest in

his son's schooling so he can find a job.